Welcome a newcomer to the mic. David's good friend Jeff is a first timer and he does an excellent job with his first at bat. His views on managing the stages of stress and how it relates to separation, divorce, loss of a family member or loss of a job are directly on point. Listen as David and Jeff discuss the ends and outs of the transition from the actual ending to the beginning. They surprise themselves with the commonality of Jeff's paradigm with the seven stages of grief. David does his best trying to convince Jeff to become more selfish with his transitional healing... stay tuned.